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Date: 2009-07-24 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karnythia.livejournal.com
I'm going to need you to get your people. Because I don't want to blow up fandom, but I think I'm about to go ahead and do it.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I'm FURIOUS. And Tweeting about it. So if you wanna blow this bullshit up together, there are lots of good, loud fannish people who are like "we need to stop this shit now". The teachable moments are getting awfully fucking tiring though.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingbarefoot.livejournal.com
Okay and now that proves to me that the best thing I ever did ... was stay the hell out of the new trek fan pool.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shweta-narayan.livejournal.com
GAH.

"Not supporting this pairing is like not supporting MLK Jr"??

Date: 2009-07-24 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
And, the NuTrek honeymoon officially ends. Enjoy, kids, it's only gonna get more exciting from here on out.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karnythia.livejournal.com
I'm in. Give me a second to write a post and we can get [livejournal.com profile] metafandom talking about it.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genmaicha.livejournal.com
Oh dear lord. Are they really, honestly, insisting that it's not about the ship while making it obvious that really, it is?

Date: 2009-07-24 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm up doing actual work, hence just link blogging right now, but there will be a tirade if not tonight, tomorrow.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starstealingirl.livejournal.com
"I'm not homophobic. Some of my favorite fictitious characters are gay!"

(Or "straight but in love with just this one person of the same sex." Because that's more romantic than being gay. Or something.)

Date: 2009-07-24 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karnythia.livejournal.com
Works for me.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] britgeekgrrl.livejournal.com
*blink* *blink*

What the hell...?

*sighs*

Date: 2009-07-24 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushis.livejournal.com
ANALOGY FAIL!

Date: 2009-07-24 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com
Wow, that's just ... wow.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:37 am (UTC)
contrarywise: Glowing green trees along a road (*sigh*)
From: [personal profile] contrarywise
Oh ye Gods. Seriously, people?

It's not like GLBT Trek fans haven't campaigned, largely unsuccessfully, for queer inclusion on Star Trek for decades, oh no. Argh, so much fail! *headdesk*

Date: 2009-07-24 03:39 am (UTC)
ext_1911: (meta)
From: [identity profile] telesilla.livejournal.com
If you're collecting links, Nancy and I did posts about this yesterday--mine and hers.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com
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<i.straight but in love with just this one person of the same sex.</i>

I would suggest that you not watch "Torchwood" this year. For there is some MIGHTY epic fail on that score.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:40 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-24 03:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taraljc.livejournal.com
I had to stop reading that thread, because the FLAMES ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE kept setting off the smoke detector, and then I had to go open the windows, and it was a whole big thing.

and then i wrote meta.

Edited Date: 2009-07-24 03:41 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-24 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rednwhiterose.livejournal.com
I had to stop reading that thread, because the FLAMES ON THE SIDE OF MY FACE kept setting off the smoke detector, and then I had to go open the windows, and it was a whole big thing.

and then i wrote meta.


You are full of Win.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
It depends on how you look at it, as the character who makes that assertion is known to be a lying liar who lies, who's just been blindsided that his family know about the boyfriend he's not particularly been out about. Additionally, Ianto is such a fixator and not rational in his relationships (Lisa, OMG); this just struck me as more of his particular brand of crazy, especially since it contradicts other things he's said about his sexuality in tie-in materials.

But yeah, source of fandom controversy.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:44 am (UTC)
exbentley: (look at me i'm zachary fucking quinto)
From: [personal profile] exbentley
Oh, man, hey now. I think the outrage of people from the same fandom in the comments speaks to the idea that we're not all idiots.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
See, now I feel really old, because the only MLK Jr I can think of is the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Junior.
Sometimes I just haven't the first clue what young people are talking about.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winterknight.livejournal.com
(I get the WTF, but to me, Ianto just doesn't count on that score. He's not so much queer/straight as obsessosexual.)

Date: 2009-07-24 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingbarefoot.livejournal.com
*runs away from the Quinto*

I've learnt from my fandom of choice and how some of ours drank the kool aid and went around the bend that not all are idiots. For every one who is well spoken and beyond eye opening for all the right ways, there are those like the ones that make you go WTH who make you sort of tilt your head and go do I really want to start in that one, even when you have a favorite actor in the movie.

Date: 2009-07-24 03:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
"Jeepers, what good are all you gay people if you won't be my troops?"
Oy.
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