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So, it was finally time for "Seeing Red," and my feelings are largely ambivalent. I don't think what Spike did (whether it was rape, attempted rape, threatened rape, etc.) was out of character -- we see him physically and sexually bully women both pre- and post- chip. I did find Buffy's response out of character -- not that she was startled, afraid and weak/injured, but just that what the show has argued as her automatic (not learned, most of us forget what we've learned when we're in danger) fighting abilities were not there. Also, I hated how the scene was overlit, although it was also interesting at the end how the scene where Buffy is talking to Xander before Warren shows up with a gun is also overlit. Also this whole thing doesn't stop me from being engaged with Spike as a character -- that's the great thing about fiction, I can like totally shit people who do totally shit things because their use in a narrative is brain stimulating on some level.
I found Tara's death to be startling, even though I knew about it (I didn't know it was this episode), and well done. I did not find it to be homophobic. Willow and Tara were the last couple standing, and if Whedon wanted all the couples doomed and they'd just gotten back together, that's what he had to do. I also appreciated that prior to the shooting Willow and Tara finally read like people who actually fuck, as opposed to the way lesbians usually read on TV, which is as people who pet each other gently and don't really have sex.
Xander was SUCH AN ASSHOLE in this ep I thought I was going to throw something at the TV.
Loved the Spike/Anya thing.
Meanwhile on Angel, Cordy is some mother goddess demon of love who I assume will eventually sacrifice her life so that Angel can become mortal. Connor is fucked up (and where do I know that kid from) and Holtz has bad make-up and a fucked up plan. Lila is courting Wesley and none of this is going to end well.
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Date: 2010-06-01 11:20 pm (UTC)And I really loved Spike as a character, so that was a problem. I finally got around it in my own way, but it always left me with a really yucky feeling. But what especially bothered me was Buffy's reaction, or rather lack of reaction. She never seems angry enough about what happened to satisfy me.
I would like to point out that I don't consider Buffy's treatment of Spike a-okay in that relationship either, but for me the attempted rape just overshadowed everything emotionally. Also, while a lot of people have pointed out that Buffy's behavior sucked, I always saw Spike as a bit pathetic for not just hauling ass out of there. I realize that's hard to do, but it's not impossible, and if you're stuck in a situation like he was in, well worth doing.
Connor became one of my favorite characters on Angel, but that's because he hit a lot of my character kinks: deprived childhood, brainwashed warrior, psycho woobie, etc.
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Date: 2010-06-02 04:12 am (UTC)