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I've also seen a bit of discussion about the presentation of race in the series (notably, an early sequence showing a white band in black-face). Yes, it's historically accurate. But, that doesn't make it unreasonable for people to talk about how it makes them uncomfortable or whether or not showing this moment is necessary to the construction of the show. It's not appropriate to dismiss that conversation, even if you ultimately disagree with the conclusions any particular person involved in it reaches.
I really, really did not know what to do with "Number 5". Is this Angel does Tarrantino? How much of this is as things happen in a supernatural reality and how much of this is as heightened (un)reality narrative bias? Is this racist? Should Whedon ever be allowed near anything that pretends to be about South American or Latin American or Hispanic cultures? Ever? Because I remember "Inca Mummy Girl" and so do you. On the other hand, it had such a small, gentle, touching ending, and I do like the idea that everyone, even the dude you think it just a punchline has an important, meaningful story and deserves your respect.
The Wesley's robot dad episode has its own set of problems. Namely, robot ninjas raining from the sky. Ninjas are a crappy shortcut in terms of narrative and racial presentation (faceless Asian horde, seriously?). On the other hand, the performances knock this out of the park -- we see the awkward Wesley we remember from Buffy, we see a man who is both too ruthless (Wes, just because you have nothing left to live for and would happily give up your life for the greater good, doesn't mean everyone else is on that page) and too generous (for fuck's sake, TELL FRED) to be happy, and, ultimately, we see a man who doesn't know quite what to think about his own childhood. Was his father merely cruel (not that words don't do a lot of damage) or as was referenced in an episode way back (Patty had to remind me) actually physically abusive? What makes Wesley the worse man? the desire to connect with his father or the desire to kill him? None of this works without Alexis Denisof being able to run rings around a simple script (again, ninjas? must we?).
This is also an episode that speaks, again, to so much of early Torchwood -- Wesley and Angel touching base after a night of professional disasters. Wesley, worrying about how their fearless, remote, miserable leader is doing, more than being worried about his own pain related to robot
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:11 pm (UTC)(Sorry to be OT, but you're the only one I know of on my flist that watches this, and I had to tell someone :)
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:17 pm (UTC)I wanted my daughter to start walking home on her own in first grade but she didn't feel comfortable with that until 3rd grade. So I'd walk up to school and fetch her on the days I didn't work. At third grade I said, "You're old enough. Do it. You'll be fine." And she was and all was well though she was really concerned at first.
Kids younger than first grade need to walk with someone older. Our local elementary school allowed older siblings to walk their younger siblings home. Packs of kids were allowed to walk home from our local school together starting at about 2nd grade, especially if there were older kids (4th or 5th graders) in the group.
For her middle school, the kids could take the public buses home and the youngest kids are 11 (6th grade). Up until this year, the students even got free rides on the public buses. Unfortunately due to budgets cuts, that service is gone.
The kidlet's dad doesn't think she's old enough to ride the buses on her own yet but I think she could. We're still negotiating that.
It's weird because I'm the country kid. I grew up in rural southeastern Virginia without public transit anywhere and I want the kidlet to learn to navigate public transit to get herself places on her own.
I didn't walk much as a kid because nothing was within walking distance. And the one time I walked home from my high school (I was 16 or 17), which was about a mile and a half from my house, I got called in to talk to the principal because it was too dangerous for me to walk home. (Admittedly, there were no sidewalks and people drove like maniacs on my road but my parents let me collect aluminum cans all the time, on my road, by myself.)
My husband, who's the suburban guy, is way more conservative than I on letting our daughter ride alone. We take her on all forms of transit, all over the place (she's ridden subways and buses in San Juan, NYC, San Francisco, San Diego, Atlanta, and DC), so it's not an aversion to transit. It's the letting her out in a wide world that isn't particularly kind to women. I'm of the learn to deal with it now, when you have someone to help explain it and he's of the shelter her a bit longer mind set.
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:19 pm (UTC)Thank you.
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:25 pm (UTC)I don't tell her about cracking her head open or putting her eye out. She does thought have to sit in the backseat and there will be negotiations when she gets to be old enough to drive. (I do not think 16 year olds have enough life experience to drive in the metro DC area.)
My mother was killed in a carwreck and my sister gravely injured. I know how dangerous cars are and when the kidlet asks to sit in the front seat I say point blank, "No. It's too dangerous. I'm not risking what happened to your auntie happening to you."
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 04:29 pm (UTC)I never see kids outside unattended anymore. At best I'll see a kid not quite old enough to drive walk to the bus stop (and that's only since moving to the city). It doesn't seem right, kids normally want to explore their environment, I'd think.
Between that and the huge rise in processed foods and soft drinks, it's no surprise to me that we as a nation are increasingly more sedentary & heavier. I don't know if attitudes will change yet again or not. Maybe once everyone's injected with a permanent GPS tag and can't not be found, we'll stop hovering? (1/2 snark there)
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 04:39 pm (UTC)Thanks, Ronald Reagan!
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Date: 2010-09-20 04:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 04:55 pm (UTC)Maturity levels fluctuate and kids mature at different rates. Adults knowing this and keeping it in mind is half the problem. Too many adults want a one size fits all kids set of rules, and when you add in really bad parenting choices (adults letting a 6 year old take care of a three year old whilst they're at work) you get really strict rules that disallow a 10 year staying at home with an 8 year old whilst mom runs to the store 1/2 mi. away for milk and pizza. Or over concerned people in the grocery store parking lot commenting on the fact that you've left your kids in the car whilst you pushed the cart to the corral.
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Date: 2010-09-20 05:01 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-09-20 05:09 pm (UTC)With retirement + a second career + a second earner in a household, it's not hard to hit $150k. The Clinton-era tax bracket for this group was slightly higher and we're just reverting to that level, so the sky is not falling.
However, I'm not certain it's wise to raise taxes for households making under $200 with the economy where it is, however. People have also lost house value, and are reluctant to spend as they normally would on things like new kitchen cabinets, and it's KILLING retail. The little store where I bought my kitchen tile is out of business. I make 5% less than I did two years ago but I don't want to spend money on things like this to improve my house anymore, because I don't know that my job is secure and my house is worth less than I paid for it now, so screw it.
As for kid safety, I think the problem is that hardly anybody lets their kids walk anywhere or do anything unsupervised now, so there are fewer kids out there, creating the illusion that it's weird and unsafe to do this (and maybe it's safer when there are hordes of kids walking to school, anyway, because there you all are, walking within plain view of each other, rather than being the sole kid by herself).
I do live in the burbs and I don't even see kids in their BACKYARDS. They're all at planned activities or playing games on the wii, I guess. I don't know.
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Date: 2010-09-20 05:47 pm (UTC)I actually really love the ROBOT NINJA episode, just because I think the emotion in the acting is stellar. My relationship with my parents never came anywhere near abusive, but I can absolutely relate to that desperation to please and Alexis just nails it for me.
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Date: 2010-09-20 05:54 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-09-20 06:10 pm (UTC)But, 6th grade (a couple months after the above incident) was when I was allowed to start taking the bus home by myself. In 8th grade I was allowed to take the bus to school, but I was, under no circumstances, allowed to take the subway to school. Until the following year. (I started taking the subway on the weekends, though. Often I would take the bus anyway because I knew the routes better.)
I felt very restricted in my freedom as a tween and teen, but mostly out of comparison with my older brother. The problem there was that he had lots of friends in nearby neighborhoods, I did not. So where my brother's friends were a short walk or bus ride away, my friends pretty much required the subway, or at least two buses. So it was a weird combo of accessibility and supply. I'm sure there was also some sexism involved, as it's a lot easier to worry about a 5' tall teenage girl than it is to worry about a 6'2 teenage boy.
I was, however, allowed to go to Boston the summer before my senior year of high school. I was accepted at the Berklee College of Music songwriting and guitar sessions, a week a piece. There was no supervision to speak of, and I definitely got up to shenanigans that my parents wouldn't have appreciated, but probably expected. My mother's sole request of me was, "Don't ever go to someone's house." Which, honestly, is pretty good advice for any seventeen-year-old going to another city.
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Date: 2010-09-20 07:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 08:05 pm (UTC)Cue me blinking for a moment while I tried to process that. (I'm from Houston which fails at public transportation and grew up in rural Michigan where it was nonexistent)
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Date: 2010-09-20 08:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 08:31 pm (UTC)Mind, I lived in a rural area and our yard was HUGE and in the middle of nowhere, so the chance of us being hit by a car or snatched off the street was minimal. Still, we had boundary rules (do not go past the second tree on one side of the house or the garbage cans on the other--there was a deep ravine with a sudden drop-off behind the house), but we also walked a quarter mile to the bus stop to wait with the other kids starting in kindergarten. And since we were on the farm route, it might be a good half hour before the bus came.
When we moved to the Houston suburbs, suddenly there were a couple dozen kids on the street and pick up games of roller hockey almost every day after school. When we out grew that, I used to walk by myself to the neighborhood park to sit on the swings and think (I was a strange, melancholy child due to undiagnosed chronic depression).
I don't have children of my own yet (though I am thinking seriously about adoption), so I don't know what'll go through my head when it's my kid. Though, honestly, I'll probably end up being labeled a 'bad parent' for letting my kid be too Free Range.
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Date: 2010-09-20 08:41 pm (UTC)I can remember my mom being furious she had to pay for the schoolbus until I was in third grade and then railroading the principal on my younger siblings being allowed to walk home with me as soon as I was. I'm not sure I felt ready to walk home when I was younger than that, but then all the older neighbors took the bus at that point too. My siblings, otoh, never waited for me to 'pick them up' from their teacher, so I was always getting in trouble about that, but they felt just fine walking home on their own (~1.5miles).
I watch other kids at the playground and try to guess ages for when it'll be ok to let mine go alone. As far as the grocery store thing, it's nice around here in that if I notice or am noticed leaving kids in car while returning cart, the observer just tends to stand at their car and watch until mom is back, nod with a smile and continue on.
As far as being alone, I'm pretty sure that was legally defined where I grew up (chicago 'burbs), but that many people also ignored that. I know there were scandals about liquor cabinets being broken into during jr high, as the HS 'babysitters' were only to happy to join the party.
public transit was a default way of getting to and from school and in HS of visiting friends in the city proper.
As it is, I'm thought weird because my kids are ready for and asking their friends about sleepovers. Though the whole spending one night a week at the grandparents for years now when I taught in the evenings is undeniably a factor there.
Neighborhood girl I mentioned in other comment will probably try to transfer to same school we're trying to get ours into so we can share meet the bus duties/carpooling/etc until theirs is old enough to walk the neighborhood crew home.
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Date: 2010-09-20 08:55 pm (UTC)(I'm sorry for your family's loss.)
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Date: 2010-09-20 09:40 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 09:54 pm (UTC)Second, I have to note that I'm kind of peeved at the Free Range Kids gal being treated as a statistical expert. I'd rather have the article quote someone she got her numbers from, you know?
Third, one thing that's changed as far as I can tell in terms of the subjective nature of risk assessment is neighborhoods. My parents knew their neighbors, more or less, even when they were transient student rentals. My parents now live about ten blocks away from where I grew up, but they don't seem to know their neighbors as well.
I'm not particularly qualified to say much more, because I grew up in dense college-town suburbia and now live and parent in an urban setting, so it's hard for me to tell what's changed across-the-board in terms of community organization (both spatial and interpersonal) and what hasn't.
I'd feel uncomfortable letting my kids run around my neighborhood without supervision not because of kidnapping fears, but because of traffic--the same reason, more or less, that I have indoor cats. Our yard has a water feature that can't be fenced off, so no running around the back yard unsupervised either. We don't have a front yard. So we go on a lot of walks and we drive or take public transit to parks a lot.
There has definitely been a change in parenting expectations, too. You're expected to have a much higher level of engagement, especially with younger children, than I remember being true during my childhood. This is the aspect that I find most creepily intrusive. Independent play, and lots of it, was crucial to me. I was definitely not neglected by my mother sitting by a tree reading her book while I ran around.