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I've also seen a bit of discussion about the presentation of race in the series (notably, an early sequence showing a white band in black-face). Yes, it's historically accurate. But, that doesn't make it unreasonable for people to talk about how it makes them uncomfortable or whether or not showing this moment is necessary to the construction of the show. It's not appropriate to dismiss that conversation, even if you ultimately disagree with the conclusions any particular person involved in it reaches.
I really, really did not know what to do with "Number 5". Is this Angel does Tarrantino? How much of this is as things happen in a supernatural reality and how much of this is as heightened (un)reality narrative bias? Is this racist? Should Whedon ever be allowed near anything that pretends to be about South American or Latin American or Hispanic cultures? Ever? Because I remember "Inca Mummy Girl" and so do you. On the other hand, it had such a small, gentle, touching ending, and I do like the idea that everyone, even the dude you think it just a punchline has an important, meaningful story and deserves your respect.
The Wesley's robot dad episode has its own set of problems. Namely, robot ninjas raining from the sky. Ninjas are a crappy shortcut in terms of narrative and racial presentation (faceless Asian horde, seriously?). On the other hand, the performances knock this out of the park -- we see the awkward Wesley we remember from Buffy, we see a man who is both too ruthless (Wes, just because you have nothing left to live for and would happily give up your life for the greater good, doesn't mean everyone else is on that page) and too generous (for fuck's sake, TELL FRED) to be happy, and, ultimately, we see a man who doesn't know quite what to think about his own childhood. Was his father merely cruel (not that words don't do a lot of damage) or as was referenced in an episode way back (Patty had to remind me) actually physically abusive? What makes Wesley the worse man? the desire to connect with his father or the desire to kill him? None of this works without Alexis Denisof being able to run rings around a simple script (again, ninjas? must we?).
This is also an episode that speaks, again, to so much of early Torchwood -- Wesley and Angel touching base after a night of professional disasters. Wesley, worrying about how their fearless, remote, miserable leader is doing, more than being worried about his own pain related to robot
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Date: 2010-09-20 01:42 pm (UTC)Is it bad that I read this as "98% of Americans have different definitions for class boundaries than economics researchers do?" :) I mean I expect they are measuring a real phenomenon, but...
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Date: 2010-09-20 01:44 pm (UTC)But the studies I've seen are so basic, I'm not sure they'd support that reading. It's like "a new tax will affect households making over 70K per year, will that affect you?"
Households then say yes. Then they ask the households how much they make per year, and it's like 50K. And then everyone is confused.
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Date: 2010-09-20 01:48 pm (UTC)Yeah I got nothin'. (Thanks for the clarification.)
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Date: 2010-09-20 01:51 pm (UTC)While this makes me want to slam my head into the wall it does help frame a lot of problems I've noticed in american politics, namely how very, very easy it is to get people to vote against their own self interests. I always thought that people were under the impression they'd win the lottery or would inherit huge amounts of money from some previously unknown relative due to a tragic and fatal bout of food poising at a family reunion and were ensuring that their future wealthy self would be well cared for.
So they actually think they're currently better off then their 1040 implies?
Math is hard. I guess.
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Date: 2010-09-20 01:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 02:00 pm (UTC)Let's just say there's been more than one occasion where he could have done a lot more to make real equality happen. But he seems more concerned about pushing his party's political goal in the area of economics, and about not pissing off the bigger partner in the coalition.
Still, I'm happy for him and his partner. They've been together for years now, so I'm sure they're overjoyed to take this step. :)
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:06 pm (UTC)We have examined the "children would have to wait outside for 750000 hours to be ensured of a kidnapping" and determined that that basically means 85 years, and at that point, you are probably no longer pedo-bait. You can still be kidnapped, sure, but it's unlikely to be for the same parental-panic reasons.
Also, she apologizes on behalf of her fandom for the Hetalia ads thing.
~Sor
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:06 pm (UTC)I really, really did not know what to do with "Number 5". I remember watching that one and wincing repeatedly, but every time I think of Wesley's awed expression as he breathes, "¡El Diablo Robotico!" I crack up.
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 02:14 pm (UTC)It caused a lot of press interest, because he was the first, but it, and the public reaction, were overwhelmingly supportive. It was probably at least in part what gave Westerwelle the courage to officially come out after his homosexuality had been sort of an open secret for years.
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:16 pm (UTC)I am completely, btw, fascinated that gay pride there is called the Christopher Street Day apparently (or this may be an odd translation I'm getting from my German-speaking colleagues, I'm not sure). This New Yorker (where Christopher Street is) is tickled by that.
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:17 pm (UTC)I was just talking to a mother of two about this very thing yesterday over brunch. She's noticed that her twin girls are gaining weight, and she attributes that to the fact that they don't walk around and don't play outside much anymore. She then asked us at what age we started to "play" outside, and said that it's not socially acceptable to let you kids just play outside unless they are supervised.
She says she feels guilty about the fact that her girls are putting on weight because they're sitting around watching tv instead of running around outdoors, but that between work and household duties, she doesn't have the time to take them every day. Her and her husband are starting to let the 11 year old girls walk to the park a few blocks away on their own, and while it seems to be going well (she goes to join them after a half hour or so), she said she gets judged by the other Moms who are there supervising their kids.
My parents always kicked us out of the house to play outside all day. Granted, we lived on a very quiet street, and most of the neighbours would keep an eye on us kids running around. But we were free to play as we wanted. I can't imagine what it'd be like to be confined to the house or a supervised fenced in yard just because of social fears and expectations.
Sorry, long babble. I might be procrastinating from real work. ;) Good article, thanks for the link. I'll try to send it to the woman I met (she's a friend of a friend).
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 02:20 pm (UTC)It's interesting to me how the meaning of "the season" has changed in the past 100 years. And yet it's still the same time of year. I suppose there are still symphonies happening where the beautiful people go to be seen, and in October there will be balls. But at least now you don't have to be listed in the Social Register to get into those.
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-09-20 02:21 pm (UTC)There are several hundred congressmen. There are sixteen ministers. And the foreign minister is one of the most (some say the most) important ones. (And ministers are also members of congress, anyway, so he's a congressman, too. :) )
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:22 pm (UTC)I keep abreast of the German news partly to maintain language skills and partly because I spent a lot of time procrastinating on the internet (to make it clear that I'm not speaking as someone in Germany, or ever Europe), and it took ages before I found out Westerwelle's gay. There was a small row a while back about whether his partner should go on state visits to countries hostile to gay people and whether by not taking him, Westerwelle was tacitly accepting their policies, which then turned into a debate on whether a straight politician would be subject to such scrutiny of his personal life. On the other hand, I'm not sure it comes up that often that Volker Beck's gay and he'd be my answer if you asked me to name a visible gay German politician.
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:24 pm (UTC)This is a totally, totally worthy discussion. What was the ultimate concensus?
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:24 pm (UTC)This could be people reacting negatively to any new tax, whether it affects them or not. Especially if they think their own income will increase in the coming years, thus affecting their put-upon future selves. :)
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Date: 2010-09-20 02:24 pm (UTC)"Hermanos! The Devil has built a robot!"
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