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Because when you're sleeping four hours a night, sweet heaven, do you need physical comfort. Which is why this was soul-sucking when I was single in 2003/4 and why it's grueling now with Patty away. This is totally doable with the soothing and confidence-inducing nature of human contact; It's damn fucking tiring without. But, hey, less than a month until I see Patty, and I'm going to sleep in tomorrow; I've earned it.
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:14 pm (UTC)but *that* particular program requires a lot of focus. that kind of focus isn't going to happen if mom is dividing her attention between two kids. there are 100s of other programs she could take her twins to that wouldn't require one adult/one child - and she shouldn't be expecting an established program to redesign its program requirements simply so she and her children can attend. there are other parents, other families, that have signed up for that program and she doesn't get to have it adjusted just for her.
I may be (probably am?) overreacting to her post. it seemed steeped in entitlement to me. but then, I'm the kind of parent that doesn't understand a lot of parenting out there.
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:47 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:20 pm (UTC)And no, you aren't missing anything on the twin discrimination thing, imho (and I have had two toddlers in recent memories, albeit not twins). The comments from twins are slightly amusing.
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:29 pm (UTC)This leads me to observe the great irony of life. Humans need each other but we are our own worst enemies.
I was bullied in high school but I remember thinking that the girl who did the bullying was just as insecure as I was, perhaps more so. I eventually got her to stop by being cheerful in the face of her name calling as ignoring her did not make her stop, I had to respond in a way that was negative reinforcement for her. My husband was bullied even worse than I was to the point of having someone choke him in school. His parents enrolled him in a martial arts class and this changed the way he carried himself and the bullying ceased. When my daughter was ten, friends of hers enrolled in a Tang Soo Do class and she became interested and I was delighted to let her take the classes. The classes were conducted in such away that boosts self esteem and confidence along with understanding that using physical contact is a last resort even if you have the skills to do so. I think that if there were some way to incorporate this in mainstream schooling, we would see less bullying overall.
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:33 pm (UTC)I didn't know what it was about when I saw it, and was therefore utterly unprepared for it. It was masterfully written, directed, and acted, but I have no qualms about saying it was an awful, awful movie.
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:49 pm (UTC)Being a mother of twins, as well as mother of two singletons you do learn a different parenting skill set with twins, and I can understand her belief that she be able to cope with the class and her twins.
The lady running the class is entitled to set the rules she wishes, and so it is probably an over reaction, but I can understand the writer of the article reacting to a sore spot. With twins you're a family of freaks, public property when ever you go out, giving people leave to ask questions about your sex life, (so did you conceive them naturally?) and tell you that if they were in your position they would have killed themselves. After a while it all wears thin, and it hurts when there's yet another activity you are excluded from because you had twins.
So yes, an over-reaction but I can understand why she got her buttons pushed.
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Date: 2010-10-08 03:59 pm (UTC)I'm not really sure where I'm going with this, but it makes me uncomfortable that a lot of people's response is "hire a babysitter".
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Date: 2010-10-08 04:09 pm (UTC)Yes, I understand her personal frustration, because she's got to wrangle twice as much baby as Jo Q Averagemom. But teachers/people taking responsibility for running children's activities DO get to charge for their services per child, regardless of whether any two kids are neighbours, cousins or identical twins, and they also get to set out what they consider to be an appropriate minimum level of adult supervision. Which, okay, mostly isn't a 1:1 ratio - but especially in America, where suing people seems to be the most popular national sport, I absolutely can't blame them for covering their asses.
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Date: 2010-10-08 05:34 pm (UTC)You're not missing anything. That lady is an overprivileged twit.
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Date: 2010-10-08 06:06 pm (UTC)It's a total tragedy, because I LOVED it so much, and I pre-ordered the DVDs so I'd get them the minute they came out, and it's one of the ebst pieces of television (imo) I've ever seen (yes, I know opinion on CoE are divided. I'm in the "that was fucking amazing") camp.
But every time I pull out the DVDs, I think about how I felt (I was so fucked-up I had to write an aftermath fic for catharsis before I was even able to start stopping to think about it all the time), and the riot scene, and Jack's eyes in that scene with Steven, and I decide to watch something else instead.
I want to re-watch it, dammit. It's one of my favorite TV things EVER. Plus, now that I've been to Cardiff, I want to look out for places I recognize (I rewatched the first two season within ten days of coming back.)
But every time try, I fail.
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Date: 2010-10-08 06:39 pm (UTC)As a pre-school teacher, and a Y employee, I've noticed that lot of parents don't recognize how many times a day someone else has to step in when their kids are out in public.
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Date: 2010-10-08 09:01 pm (UTC)OK, this one I have to address. It's lovely if you live in a community or other situation where it's possible to "find a way around it" by asking neighbors for free labor, but not all parents of twins have that as an option. I scramble all the time for free daytime help to take my twins to the park for an hour, for example. I know my neighbors and know lots of people who know lots of people, but few of them are both available daytimes and also willing and physically able to cope with two very active two-year-olds. And someone consistent/reliable enough to do a class? Forget it, or else I'd be going once a week to the tumbling space instead of waiting wistfully until they turn three.
I'm not really complaining, and I think the NYT author was way out of line and then some. But it's just not this simple, sorry.
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Date: 2010-10-08 06:48 pm (UTC)http://dr-is-in.livejournal.com/338448.html?thread=1910288#t1910288
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Date: 2010-10-08 06:53 pm (UTC)"The queer community is not a monolith, and bullying is always wrong. Many people in oppressed communities have internalized self-hatred and standards of the dominant culture (not saying this is the case with you, trying to describe the larger context), that can make people facing the same oppressions not just have different opinions, but be on truly on different sides of the same issue. That's okay, incivility isn't. No one can speak for everyone, nor is there one true way or one right answer -- that's what we often forget in Internet discourse. But it is unfair to dare someone in this manner, for it also implies this idea of the single correct mode of action, just one that's more to your liking.
Haven't read the story, and am hesitant to speak to a part of the community I am not a direct member of. But bullying is wrong. And people who have harmed you or others supporting a good cause, does not necessarily make that cause less good.
I'm sorry this is hard and complicated shit. I'm even more sorry that people forget that, cruelly."
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Date: 2010-10-08 07:16 pm (UTC)Oh and Saving Private Ryan because of my father's history of having been part of the second wave that landed at Normandy. That was a mistake seeing it in the movie theater.
I got that one on DVD for my father a few years ago, and it is still in its wrapper. Oddly, he LOVED Band of Brothers (I suspect because it was about the Air Force and he was Army infantry so he could distance himself) and the follow-on, The Pacific.
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Date: 2010-10-08 07:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-10-08 07:18 pm (UTC)very much in agreement with this.
for me it wasn't skinny it was fat. I managed to escape the bullies by being friendly with someone in every group - something I didn't realize until later in life. Or maybe I was just not that interesting, heh... who knows, it was a big high school.
my little sister is 12 and living in NY while I live in CA. I get emails and text from her about how hard things are in school because she's the odd one out. She's too pretty, too tall, too smart, too odd for most of them to accept and it hurts. I think the smart part and the fact that she is incredibly socially adept is likely to keep her out of the hands of the bullies. I see it as my job to keep the rest of her sane enough to get through the inner pain of the rest of it until she finds her "people" who ever those may be.
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Date: 2010-10-08 07:33 pm (UTC)I've been thinking about this alot. In old Norse culture there was a term Ergi - it meant something along the lines of to receive / to be receptive and was often used to describe the work of Seers in oracular trance. In order to do that work you had to allow the gods in, you had to receive them. While their were male seers, the majority tended to be women. Now, it could be that women were/are more receptive to this sort of energy - a fact I don't buy for a minute, or for a host of other cultural reasons. I do know that when I was first training and learned the word Ergi it was specifically in the context of a negative slur against men who did Sedhir because men were not to be seen as "receptive".
So many of the words we use to denigrate LGBTQ people seem to be based off of words we use to denigrate women. And so many of those words are tied up around our issues with sex. It feels like this massive rubics cube that we have to wiggle and twist in a thousand directions over and over again to try and get everything sorted.
and.... everything else i try typing keeps coming up morbid or obvious, so I am going to stop here and hope that at least makes sense, and maybe adds a smidge to the conversation.
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Date: 2010-10-08 09:45 pm (UTC)What I find interesting about this is that there's a bit in the Lokasenna where Odin is insulting Loki because Loki bore children (as a woman). And Loki basically says, "shut up, I know that you've practiced witchcraft." And it's the kind of witchcraft where the man needs to 'take the woman's role' during sex -- in order to be more receptive, I guess.
So that sort of thing is still being used as an insult, but it's also something that the All-Father did. And one might also assume things about who else was involved when the All-Father was taking the woman's role given that a) Odin isn't going to do that with just anyone and b) Loki knows about it.
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Date: 2010-10-08 08:21 pm (UTC)This may explain part of why I get some severe crazy going on if I'm not sleeping well. I get virtually zero physical contact from other human beings. (The dogs, however, are aggressive cuddlers.)
Have I ever told you that I have nightmares about being sent to prison? Like, any variation on that theme you can imagine, I have nightmares about. And I belong to the lucky half of the trans spectrum. Can I punch the NY Dept of Corrections in the fucking mouth now?
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Date: 2010-10-08 09:33 pm (UTC)One I will never watch again is Sin City. Certain characters and scenes I liked, but others just nauseated me. I've not actually seen any Lars von Trier films and I sort of think it's ok to stay that way.
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Date: 2010-10-12 07:30 am (UTC)The kid who stabbed me in the glute (I was hanging on the moneky bars at the time) wih a metal geometry compass point was bullied by the same kids who also regularly sabotaged my bike brakes and gear cables. I was generally able to fix my bike or at least walk it home if I couldn't fix it. One day, he wasn't able to fix or didn't notice what they did to his bike.
After waking up from the 14 day coma he was still in traction for another 2 months.
I have a scar. He does too.
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