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Date: 2011-01-06 03:55 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2011-01-06 04:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 04:05 pm (UTC)Fixed that for you. ;D
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Date: 2011-01-06 04:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 04:21 pm (UTC)It also makes me feel a lot better about my occasional need to just...not be a girl.
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Date: 2011-01-06 04:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 04:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 04:47 pm (UTC)As to the gender neutral pronouns people keep trying to add to English, I am a shooting-myself-in-the-foot purist, and I hate them all. I only use them when someone asks me to use them in reference to themselves.
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Date: 2011-01-06 05:25 pm (UTC)So much this.
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Date: 2011-01-06 06:07 pm (UTC)This is actually precisely the reason I dislike them as a default; because some people do primarily identify this way. Awesome for them, but I don't, so when someone refers to me as hir/sie it feels like they're trying to assign me an identity that isn't mine. Whereas all they implies to me is the person in question doesn't happen to know my gender and isn't assuming, which is fine.
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Date: 2011-01-07 12:47 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-07 03:44 am (UTC)I have grown to love the singular they.
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Date: 2011-01-08 02:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 06:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 06:23 pm (UTC)I like it. And if I'm very, very, very courageous, I just might find it in myself to follow your advice. (And yes, I know many would think I already have. But you understand.)
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Date: 2011-01-06 07:12 pm (UTC)And which advice? I tell people do a lot of stuff, which you know is why people like me (and often, really, really don't like me).
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Date: 2011-01-06 07:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 07:43 pm (UTC)Your article about the deb also signifies here. She seems to be excelling wherever she can, and as you note, some want to hammer her down for it.
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Date: 2011-01-07 03:55 pm (UTC)http://www.newser.com/article/d9kj7jeg1/fact-check-after-birds-fall-and-fish-die-people-seek-apocalyptic-links-that-arent-there.html
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Date: 2011-01-06 07:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 07:43 pm (UTC)Also, as noted by other commenters, the media problem. Media isn't seen as fuel for imaginative play when the screen is off, yet I see it clearly in my kids' play, which is not at all a parroting of what they see, but builds on it in new and inventive ways. Just like, um, the books they read.
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Date: 2011-01-06 07:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 08:08 pm (UTC)My perspectives on these issues are shaped significantly by three things:
1. I was a highly imaginative child myself, with relatively hands-off parents. (I could keep a diary, or in my case piles of notes, and not worry about snooping. I could use the typewriter to write things. I didn't have to show them to anyone unless I wanted to. etc.)
2. I used to work in pre-school, and I have had child-led play drilled into my head. That bit in the article about not telling kids how to play with a toy or game, for example, which was great advice but very familiar to me.
3. I have twins. I think that a lot of the weird overbearing parenting style that's popular today works best with solo kids and breaks down really quickly with two who are the same age. I think being so developmentally close is important in this case, too, so it's different with siblings.
(bonus: my kids are still really young. "Online" means requesting "picture of butterfly! Picture of Daddy! Picture of airplane!" from Flickr. But just wait until I get that smart phone...)
I mention all of this just b/c it means I have funny blind spots. Like, my first reaction to your comment was "well, except for paper diaries and things -- oh *wait*, other parents snoop!" Oops.
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Date: 2011-01-06 08:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 08:23 pm (UTC)(And then I ended up doing mostly solo stuff. My friends were a) boringly straightforward in their play and b) boys who kept trying to gender-police, so I ditched them.)
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Date: 2011-01-06 10:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-01-06 07:59 pm (UTC)But that is not the entire story, of course.
I've been butch my whole life, and I think butch is a better way of putting it than "tomboy" -- I'm not a boy, I'm not male, I'm just gender non-conforming. I work mostly among men, spent the first 17 years of my working life with only one female peer engineer. My hobbies are thought of as typically male: cameras, woodworking, fountain pens (though less so than the prior two), science fiction (less in reality than perception, though).
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Date: 2011-01-08 12:19 am (UTC)