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things to write about later:

While I don't believe in the truth, Frey is still an asshole, or a sociopath. I haven't decided which.

Just because really smart kids are frequently challening to teach and raise, does not mean every kid, whose parents think they are a handful and foster conditions that make them more of a handful, is a fucking genius. But then of course in America everyone wants their kid to be a genius, so why the hell not let them get away with all sorts of crap and then be all hippy dippy about it to prove that they unique and evolutionarily advanced. In other words, wankity wank wank: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/fashion/thursdaystyles/12INDIGO.html

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[splix.livejournal.com]

Oh, Christ almighty. Sure, you have a snotty, disrespectful brat for a kid, and elevate them to demigod status... I weep for the future.

OTOH, they'll probably make fantastic film-studio heads.

[alterjess.livejournal.com]

I think I liked this story better when it was a really crappy science fiction book (http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue139/books.html).

[orobouros.livejournal.com]

a few of my classmates have bought into that whole indigo thing.

makes me want to tie 'em all up and force them to watch Village of the Damned.

As you can probably imagine, I have little patience for this crap.

[lordcamiliano.livejournal.com]

There may be something to what they're talking about, but frankly I don't think these "indigo kids" are as common as all that -- mostly kids these days are overindulged materially and neglected emotionally, badly disciplined by their parents (or worse, not at all), socially unable to cope with other human beings due to being raised by Nanny TV and PC since infancy, and then drugged into submission by panicing, underqualified parents unable or unwilling to actually get to know their children as human beings and relying more on quick fixes than actual solutions that require creative thought on the part of the parents (which very few people have, btw, creative thought) and *gasp* foster creative thought in the children (What? Our children thinking independently and creatively? We can't have that! The last time we tried that, we got the horror of Woostock and people who weren't willing to fight in our wars!)

Can we please institute a law that says anyone who decides to breed and raise children MUST be trained and issued parenting licenses? I'd take that course before having kids! The punishment for parenting without a license would simply be to place the children in a foster home with LICENSED PARENTS (The licensing could include psychological testing and evaluation, to ensure that no loonies or pedophiles slip past) until such time as the birth parents get licensed.

It's just a thought. After all, raising a future generation isn't nearly as important as, say, driving a car.

[billijean.livejournal.com]

Oh boy.. I have a lot to say on this. lol

Jordan was identified as an Indigo Child by his teacher when he was six. In tears, she she brought me the name of the book I had to buy and said that she had done the research and we needed to deal with this before Jordan turned into a serial killer.
WWHHAAAAAAAAAAAAT?! heheheheh
So, naturally, being terrified, I bought the book. Jordan does, very strongly, fit the profile. However, I see this information simply as being helpful in parenting him, not as proof that he's some kind of high falootin special and therefore, it ok to inflict him, undamped, on anybody that wanders through.
hehe.. that sounds kind of harsh, but its not how I mean it.
The way I see it, there are infinite ways of being and these ways are most clear in children. And it is neither good nor bad, better nor worse; it just is. And the way Jordan is, means that parenting him takes close attention and lots of hand-on.
Jordan was disruptive in school and in the end, I just removed him. It seemed unfair first of all, to the other kids and parents in the class that one child should require so much of the resourcse. But mostly, it was unfair to Jordan because he was clearly in a situation that he was not able to handle well - and this was very painful to him. Similarly, Jordan was not able to sit still and be quiet in, for example, coffee shops, so I simply didn't take him.
I think that the single "Indigo" trait that gives us/him the most trouble now is that he simply does not recognise authority. He doesn't automatically assign it to adults or teachers or hockey coaches. So, for example, in hockey, we prepare him for the season, for every practice and every game by reminding him that the coach is, in fact, the boss of you, that this list of people (and you have to name names with this kid) do know more about hockey than you do, and on-ice is the not the time to be expressing your opinions.

So blah blah. My point is, I see the list of traits as valuable in that it is a group of characteristics that seem to lump together in a reasonable number of children, however; I don't see this list of traits as defining a superior child. Kids is kids. And our job is to parent them and grow them into adults as best as possible. It isn't a race.

[rackmount.livejournal.com]

how many weeks before the kids get ahold of "indigo" and translate it to mean "fag"?

at least, that's what would have happened in my junior high.

[marzipan-pig.livejournal.com]

It seems like it's important to recognize there are more things that are important than just being 'good at school' smart, and that some kids are going to be more emotionally sensitive than others. But working with those kids seems like a better idea than fawning over them; I'm sure some kids are more 'naturally' sort of spiritual or interconnected or independent or oppositional or whatever than others, but aren't those good things rather than OH SO TOTALLY SEPARATE FROM EVEYONE ELSE WE CANNOT DEAL things?

[sethg]

Can we please institute a law that says anyone who decides to breed and raise children MUST be trained and issued parenting licenses?

I am frequently tempted by that thought. Then I remind myself that if such a law is passed, I'm not going to be the one handing out the licenses.

[sethg]

Is this another story from the NYT's Lifestyles Of The Flakes With Too Much Money For Their Own Good beat? I have a hard time imagining a mother who's close to the economic margin having enough patience to indulge a 7-year-old who gets up at 2 a.m.

[lordcamiliano.livejournal.com]

True -- I'd say let's find some nice older folks who have five or six successful and happy kids and grandkids of their own -- the proof, is after all, in the pudding.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

And in mine. Ah, junior high, when no one really knew what a fag was, except that they knew that I was one.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

I completely agree.