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[rm]

I just saw the new trailer. OMG, woah. So stupidly excited for this. And, as an aside, so not happy that the ancient weapons class is scheduled against the boarding actions class at ISMAC.

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[tsarina.livejournal.com]

ZOmg, yes. I am so excited too.

[ladyjaida.livejournal.com]

Okay this post should come with a warning: do not watch in public computer center, will make fool of self.

Holy shit. I mean, I know there are going to be HUGE problems and I am so swept away by how incredibly beautiful it is I don't know what to do other than be delighted.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Did you blubber? The whole thing brings tears to my eyes.

[ladyjaida.livejournal.com]

I completely made a fool of myself. Less blubbering, more the little sounds that come with an intense chill.

Very recently actually I was talking to my mother and I said something about how I've always wanted a brotherhood. "What's wrong with a sisterhood?" she asked.

I don't know. I don't know.

But really, the whole thing gets me and gets at me.

[rm.livejournal.com]

It's not that there's anything wrong with it, it's that it's different. I always knew that, but doing what I do now really brings it home. With women there is always subtrafuge, and this survival instinct that would damn your best friend it seems. It helps make me a better fencer, but it also helps make me all naivete and wonderment about this world that I've entered into. What's a given in the ethics of boys of this sort is another country to me.

I've seen around 9 trailers of this. (Can't wait!)

[haya.livejournal.com]

Which one are you referring to?

Re: I've seen around 9 trailers of this. (Can't wait!)

[rm.livejournal.com]

The one that's being listed as the new second trailer on RealPlayer today, so lord knows.

[roy-batty.livejournal.com]

Have you watched any of the behind the scenes featurettes?

[markdeniz.livejournal.com]

It looks fab doesn't it?

[rm.livejournal.com]

Completely. I am trying to kep in mind that films aren't paced like trailers and that I can't view this with any sense of the historical knowledge I have, or it will make me nuts, but yeah, so cool.

[hangedwoman.livejournal.com]

There was a really nasty review floating around LJ a few weeks back, but since then I've seen enough varying reviews to wonder. Also noted that one of the things that made that one reviewer so very angry was something that was in fact historically accurate.

I'm kind of at the point now where I'm thinking, "It looks so damnedably good I may be able to forgive many many sins."

[rm.livejournal.com]

What were they ranting about that turned out to be accurate? I can take a few guesses, but I actually don't know on what points the film is, in fact accurate. I just know there are lots of things in the actual history that could seriously piss off various folks.

[hangedwoman.livejournal.com]

The bit about the Persian troops looking like monsters. Disfiguring the front-line soldiers was an actual battle tactic.

And yes, there's going to be lots of historical things that people can nitpick here and there, but that's a rant for another time (short version: screaming about accuracy in historical fiction is ridiculous.) I've been meaning to post it in my LJ, but I had an argument on this subject with someone recently in her LJ, and I don't want her to feel like I'm picking on her - it just happens to be a pet peeve of mine.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Ah, yeah. I was sort of expecting that one. OI.

[hangedwoman.livejournal.com]

Curious - how familiar are you with Frank Miller's graphic novel that the movie is using as its basis?

[rm.livejournal.com]

I know of it, and I know his other work, but I haven't actually read it. Let's just say I wasn't surprised by the "ooo, lesbians" moment in the new trailer.

[hangedwoman.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's not actually from the graphic novel. For future reference if you come across a "all of Frank Miller's female characters are whores" discussion (yes, please, tell me Marth Washington (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0440504465/ref=dp_proddesc_1/102-6199463-1389751?ie=UTF8&n=283155) is a whore), there are only two minor appearances by women in the graphic novel: a brief appearance by Leonidas' queen insisting that if he's going to go for a walk she insists that he take his entire personal bodyguard - all 300 (yes, there are bizarrely funny moments in the graphic novel, but they mostly work), and then she tells him to come back with his shield or on it. There's a mention of a female oracle, who is basically the tool of a group of old men, and it is mentioned in Leonidas' voice that the old men always pick the most beautiful women to be their oracle, and it's not said in a positive light.

[rm.livejournal.com]

All his female characters so aren't whores.

And this is interesting to me. Because it seems like they've added a lot of female presence int the film -- or it may just be thr trailers. That's been what's worrying me the most, just from my sense of the story I'm interested in; this is not a story about or that particularly includes women. Nor should it be.

[hangedwoman.livejournal.com]

The angry review that I mentioned earlier? One of the things mentioned is that the only female character in the movie is raped and seems to be proud to endure it for the good of her people (I'm mostly paraphrasing because I'm too lazy to look up the review). I'm guessing that's the queen. So very much not in the graphic novel, but also not necessarily wrong in the cultural context.

This person also felt the movie was blatant pro-Iraqi war propaganda. WTF? Because the word "freedom" is used?

[rm.livejournal.com]

And because the Persians looked evil, I'm guessing. My big fear is that people are going to view it as a pro-Iraq war statement and not just watch it for what it is. In fact, in my bones, I'm dreading those very arguments with a lot of my friends.

[ekatarina.livejournal.com]

Oh my yes!

Got the kerfluff in my throat watching trailers.

Can't wait until I can see it is the uber big big screen here in town.



Ekatarina

[hangedwoman.livejournal.com]

Here's a link (http://trinityofone.livejournal.com/115815.html) to that angry review I've been talking about.