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Sep. 3rd, 2008 12:41 pm
[personal profile] rm
- fencing tonight

- work

- tired (now it sets in)

- Palin. Must write about Palin.

- Would someone please call Torchwood about this?

- speaking of Torchwood two things:

1. Out of Time is a bloody stellar episode. It's extremely well-written to the acting talents of the cast, and the show even when it is well-written (which is certainly not always the case) doesn't always write with the strengths and weaknesses of its performers in mind. Pretty much a perfect episode though.

2. Okay. I now know at least two people who have ordered in pizza as Torchwood. Seriously? I still feel guilty when I have to give a fake name because my real one is too hard for them to get a handle on. I feel like I'm missing out on some common insanity. Do you give the pizza people strange names and in-jokes when you get delivery?

Date: 2008-09-03 04:52 pm (UTC)
sethg: a petunia flower (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethg
Where does one begin to write about Palin? She's her own bloody three-ring circus....

Date: 2008-09-03 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I know.

I guess my main things I want to cover is why, while I feel very bad for her daughter (who I am very concerned is being coerced into this marriage), I do believe her family is a valid, open topic and also what's best for the Democrats in this clusterfuck of a situation.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
What's best for the Democrats is exactly what Obama's been doing: Wishing Bristol the best, and telling his people that she's off limits.

What the press and pundits do is on their own heads, but the Obama camp will do well to steer clear and not rise to such tasty bait.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Oh, absolutely. But my point is, should we be rooting for Palin to step aside (highlighting McCain's inability to make a good judgement call) because of the various scandals (her daughter being least among them) or hoping that Death by a Thousand Papercuts is more useful?

Date: 2008-09-03 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
Well, whatever happens to or with Palin, McCain is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

If he drops her like a hot rock, he demonstrates that he made a poor choice and anyone he picks after that will be screwed by extension. And Gods help them if they have skeletons in their closet. (Although Palin's seemed to be on her lawn like flamingos, so hey.)

If he keeps her, well, then he's showing he's committed to sticking to his choices, no matter how awful they are. And going by the last eight years, apparently we like that in this country, so who knows.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
The flamingo analogy is so totally awesome I don't know what to do with myself.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
I'm pretty proud of that one, I have to say.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:41 pm (UTC)
sethg: a petunia flower (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethg
...also, if McCain drops Palin, the religious right will take it as a betrayal, and they will enthusiastically sit on their hands come Election Day. McCain can't win without support from the evangelicals; that's why he nominated Palin in the first place.

Date: 2008-09-03 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
I confess, I haven't been looking, but I'm curious to see what the flag-wavers have to say about her Secessionist leanings. It doesn't get more anti-American than that.

Date: 2008-09-03 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com
Not necessarily. If *she* resigns, citing personal reasons or whatever, McCain is then absolutely free and clear to choose someone else, avoiding a floor fight at the RNC. Which would have absolutely happened if he had gone with either Lieberman or Ridge, which two he absolutely preferred to anyone else.

Date: 2008-09-03 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I feel terrible saying this as a Jewish person, but Lieberman? Still a Jew. Also ran with Al Gore. That's never gonna fly with the Republicans even if it means Palin's gone..

Date: 2008-09-03 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
HAHAHA.

I feel like that should be in an Adam Sandler song. A political version of The Chanukah Song, if you will.

Date: 2008-09-03 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com
Exactly. But McCain loooooooooves him...

Date: 2008-09-03 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
Ooh, good point.

I don't think she'll resign, though. If she resigns, that's it, game over. She'll never work in politics again. Not that I think she'll have much of a chance after this last week *anyway*, but if she walks away from this, it'll be her and her guns on her porch in Alaska. That's it.

McCain's gonna have to be the one to make the choice. Gosh, is that a terrifying thought.

Date: 2008-09-03 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Have you seen the latest Bristol pics? Typical teen stuff, but posting with a bottle of Captain Morgan's and making gang signs? Not so good.

Date: 2008-09-03 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstapler.livejournal.com
Icon.

I really did just make that face.

Man, Palin's battleship is sunk.

Date: 2008-09-03 08:08 pm (UTC)
sethg: a petunia flower (Default)
From: [personal profile] sethg
If she resigns, everyone will believe it's because McCain (or the party apparatchiks) told her to resign. And McCain will have to choose someone at least as right-wing as Palin to replace her, or there'll be another floor fight.

Date: 2008-09-03 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com
Possibly, but he can claim that wasn't the case. And after the RNC, no floor fight :)

I dunno. Just speculation on my part. I'm just still gobsmacked at the lack of vetting. I expected a more religious type VP choice for obvious reasons, but this?

Date: 2008-09-03 05:07 pm (UTC)
ext_3172: (Default)
From: [identity profile] chaos-by-design.livejournal.com
See, I'm personally hoping for Death by a Thousand Papercuts.

Date: 2008-09-03 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] browneyedgirl65.livejournal.com
Honestly? That appears to be exactly what's happening.

Someone pass the popcorn...

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