and on another subject, but related to queer fetishization

[rm]

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/07/backlash-shmacklash-thats-torchwood-creator-russell-t-davies-reaction-to-the-outcry-over-the-death-of-gareth-david-lloyds.html#

I know many people in fandom are pissed about this interview.

But you know what? I fucking love it, because what I do think he's taking aim at in the thing about "go watch Supernatural" and the paragraph that follows on from there, I think he's talking about the fetishizaton of gay characters by parts of the audience and some of the nasty pop-psychology out there from people who really haven't walked even an inch in anyone's big gay shoes. Now sure, those people aren't all of fandom, and no one likes to be lumped in with clueless people they really disagree with, but so it goes.

For me, it's hat tip to RTD time. I don't always agree with his writing choices or his thoughts on writing, but I largely loved CoE, and am writing both Ianto is dead and Ianto isn't dead stuff, and think his remarks on this theme are right fucking on.

(and for the record, I don't think Ianto was fridged either. Jack's ongoing lovers are going to die, and, while he works for Torchwood, probably young and violently. If we expect to see omnisexual Jack having relationships with men, we have to expect those men to meet nasty ends in service to the dilemma of Jack's existence).

(and for the additional record, we can disagree and respect each other, because this is, among other things, about how we care about stories, and that's fucking lovely)

Comments

[dr-is-in.livejournal.com]

I don't always agree with how he says stuff, but you have to admit he's got style, not to mention the balls to say what he does. I think he's a bastard half the time but I have to give him credit for sticking by what he says and not waffling about it.

[mellacita.livejournal.com]

I agree with this. I have remarked in the past how I am half in awe of him at times, just for the gumption and self-assurance and willingness to say what he thinks. But it can rub the wrong way, too. I put a lot of thought and analysis and reflection into deciding how I felt about COE, what I loved, what I didn't, what hurt good and what hurt bad. To be dismissed or diagnosed as just another silly person who just doesn't like happy couples and/or doesn't live in the real world and/or fetishizes a same sex couple (by RTD, not directing this at you, rm) is a little saddening.