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[rm]

Just watched two hours of Firefly.

Why is it so good?

And where is the Mal/Simon slash?

ETA: Where is the good Mal/Simon written by people who aren't writing "and then, like OMG, they have this totally great date so now they are thinking about when they can totally see each other again."

NO.

Please, decent plots, decent voices and an interest in the culture of the universe which means the trapped on a ship together factor, the moral codes of the larger society, the class differences between the characters etc.

Yes, I've only seen two episodes.
Yes, I'm this picky.
Because yes, I've already seen the sucktacular, and I don't mean cock.

Comments

[redstapler.livejournal.com]

And where is the Mal/Simon slash?

All OVER the damn place.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Any authors or archives you can recommend who don't suck? I've learned how to navigate around the bad of HP fandom pretty well, but a new cess pool is hard.

Also, wow, I so need a Firefly con costume.

[heron61.livejournal.com]

It only gets better too. I'm amazing by it, it's definitely Whedon's best work, and it has spawned a truly amazing amount of slash of all sorts. OTOH, I cannot recommend enough against seeing Serenity, it very badly did not work.

Firefly is also the only place where slash truly transformed (or perhaps warped is a vastly better word) my watching of the show. I read some impressively well written River/Simon slash after watching the episode Safe and it changed how I saw the two of them - definitely wrongness.

In any case, welcome to the fandom!

[ekatarina.livejournal.com]

I have found that Serenity works better on the small screen. Whendon is better at shooting for small wide screen rather than large wide screen.

Just my thoughts, your mileage may vary.

And my roomie found Buffyverse/Firefly crossover. Imagine Mal and Spike on the bridge.


Cheers,

Ekatarina, Browncoat at heart

[neitherday.livejournal.com]

the_pretty_fits

[rm.livejournal.com]

Thank you!

[chiss.livejournal.com]

I really like the way they handle sexuality in that series. Very light touch, but it still manages to be endearing and humorous.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Yeah, so far (and again I've only seem two episodes) I really feel like they are addressing everything, not my inuendo, but by its passing presence, which I love as these aren't plot points, but just life in close quarters.

[featherofeeling.livejournal.com]

Ha! I just thought "what a coincidence, so did I!" until I realized it was probably the mini-marathon. Favorite character?

[rm.livejournal.com]

Yup. I only managed to make it through 2.5 hours as Patty and I were exhausted, but I think Simon is probably the guy I identify with and Mal I respect even if I think he's a bit of a dolt. Certainly, I feel some weird deep compassion for him, as idealism has screwed his sorry ass over.

[alexpgp.livejournal.com]

Did you really like the show or are you wondering how anyone could stomach watching it?

My sarcasm detector seems to be on the fritz this morning. :^)

Cheers...

[rm.livejournal.com]

I am utterly adoring it.

[00goddess.livejournal.com]

I love "Firefly." I have never liked any other Joss Whedon thing, but I like that show. I never saw it until a friend brought the DVD set over last year and the first couple of eps got me so hooked I stayed up all night to watch every episode in one go.

It has a lot of elements that appeal to me personally, which is definitely part of my love for the show. But also, one thing I don't like about Whedon is that he usually NEVER misses a chance to go for the cheap, stupid, unwashed laugh, along with the cheap, stupid, unwaashed plot, and "Firefly" is more intelligent and sophisticated than his other shows. Still a few dumb laughs, but I can overlook them.

I didn't like "Serenity," it's just not as good as the show.

[sphinxie.livejournal.com]

I didn't like "Serenity," it's just not as good as the show.

I absolutely agree. It was ultraviolent, and also largely dropped the "Western in space" conceit of the show which I had enjoyed.

[00goddess.livejournal.com]

That's a good point. I loved the "Western in Space" angle, not only because that's one of the elements that resonated with me, but also because it was subtle and very very well done... it didn't overwhelm the show. "Serenity" was a bad SF/Action film a la "Event Horizon."

[kathrynrose.livejournal.com]

I'm one of the few who actually loved Firefly as it aired on tv. It still makes me sad that Fox didn't give it more time.

FWIW, I also love Serenity. I think people are mad at Joss for doing typical Joss things in that movie. Or maybe I just love another opportunity to enjoy those characters.

[stupid-drawings.livejournal.com]

Simon's just begging to be slashed :P

[fuyukodachi.livejournal.com]

Isn't it aggravating when something lives up to the hype? I was distinctly pissed that it was so good. heh.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I'm not even sure why it speaks to me yet, although part of it is clearly that the actors are having more fun than they have ever had ever.

[awe-struck.livejournal.com]

I love that show! One of the few I have watched repeatedly.
Funny you should mention it. I just told Mobo this week that I needed to watch it again soon.
I liked the movie too. Good fun.

[coyotegoth.livejournal.com]

A lot of it has strange emotional echoes of the Civil War, which I love. Serenity is also excellent, and did a commendable job of bowtying years of plot into two hours.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Yeah, which creates some deep murkiness for the modern American audience, which is really risky and well, insane.

[raaven.livejournal.com]

Whedon reportedly was inspired to create Firefly in part by having read Killer Angels - a novel about the Battle of Gettysburg. So perhaps not so strange that you see the resemblance.

[ladyofthelog.livejournal.com]

The few episodes I've seen have been fabulous.

Ah, new fandoms. I've been so spoiled by being in the HP fandom for, yikes, seven years. I know where to find all the good stuff there...

[dien.livejournal.com]

Oh, enjoy! I'm always happy when someone discovers the love that is Firefly.

I second the popular opinion that Serenity the Movie doesn't really do a whole lot for me, but Firefly the show manages the ensemble cast with glorious fun and skill. There is literally NO CHARACTER of the nine I wouldn't write fic for.

Have fun watching the rest of the show!

[raaven.livejournal.com]

Welcome! Which two eps did you catch?

[rm.livejournal.com]

The actual pilot.

[raaven.livejournal.com]

Good stuff - and it only gets better. :)

[denn566.livejournal.com]

I have something to say about Firefly. which by the way i loved. i also loved the movie Serenty. Anyway, do you remember hearing the way gene Roddenberry described Star trek to the TV stations as a Wagon train to the stars? Well, doesnt FireFly remind you of the way he described Star trek was supposed to be?

[laughingirl.livejournal.com]

Not sure if you've gotten to see more of the series and/or how far you could get tomorrow, but, there's a midnight showing of Serenity at the Sunshine Saturday night. :)