words count

[rm]

This is why both LJ Idol drama _and_ fandom makes me so aggravated.

We're so invested in words, and yet feel perfectly free to act as if those words have no consequences. Well, they fucking do, people.

http://community.livejournal.com/therealljidol/237804.html?thread=21889772#t21889772

(the initial comment in the thread which is what I was linking to has been screened. discussion of what happened and what it means continues on page two of the larger thread and is still developing/worth reading).

Comments

[tantra-cat.livejournal.com]

From an outsider...this makes me terribly sad. I don't know what more to say than that...

[coridan.livejournal.com]

Why do you even participate in a venue that is home to such drama and nonsense?

It seems far more hassle than it is worth.

CB

[rm.livejournal.com]

I don't engage with most of the social aspects of the content. I enjoy the prompt and find them useful in terms of developing a thematic focus to my non-fiction work.

[coridan.livejournal.com]

By the way, you and anyone else who reads this is invited to this!

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=52590530255&ref=mf

CB

[roadnotes.livejournal.com]

I might try to make it,just for fun.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

It's not supposed to be that complicated. People post essays or short stories, you read them, you vote for the ones you like the best. Simple.
Only, somehow not.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

Sigh.
People can be such horrors.
This is why I wanted you for the advisory board.
You are sane and decent.
A needed correction for much of modern life.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Well thank you, but let me just note this here and now: NOT RUNNING.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

I wasn't talking about this year. Note the tense.

You did your duty once, dues paid, no one expects you to put yourself through that again. Well I don't.

But I'm glad you did, IFNORTT I am so glad to have met you!
Peace and Love!

[rm.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but you know, just in case it comes up. It made life seriously unpleasant for me and there are limits to what I can deal with and what Patty should have to deal with from me. If we want to go to Istanbul, we'll take a vacation.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

Noted.:)
If we want to go to Istanbul? I don't think I am acquainted with the idiom, or I fail at getting the reference.:(

It was severely bad-crazy, and that just the part of it that I'm aware of. A friend of mine was on our city council one (three year) term, and you would not believe the scary things she had to deal with from random, determinedly evil,just plain bat-fuck nut-jobs -oh, no, I guess you would.;(

Totally supporting you here.

[rm.livejournal.com]

The LJ Advisory Board meetings are held in Istanbul.

[stardragonca.livejournal.com]

They are???? WTF?
This I missed.
I would have actively encouraged you to not run again. Screw it!

[elionwyr.livejournal.com]

If you considered running again, I would loudly protest your consideration.

Just for the record.

[helens78]

Holy crap, that's... something. I really have no idea about any of the LJ Idol stuff beyond the very interesting things you write as a result of them, but you had some great things to say in your comment over there. Yowza.

[sykii.livejournal.com]

I can't say I still understand 100% what this is about, though I've nasty suspicious (tell me people aren't cutting themselves over LJ Idol, please) but hell yes, words matter.
And we now have a president who gets that, too, whatever else may come.

[sykii.livejournal.com]

Uh, I have nasty suspicions.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Someone was concerned that a situation in LJ Idol might lead to self-harm. I suppose that's the best way of putting it. I've had wank to both the left and right of me (and often _about_ me) for about a week now and I've mostly just been a bit cranky and not particularly distraught (which is hard for me!) but this just illustrated the point that the people who base their Internet amusement around these things refuse to get.

[sykii.livejournal.com]

Feh unto the lot of them!
I'm glad you're keeping your chin up.

[abbismom.livejournal.com]

The negative comments always stand out more than the positive ones. There are folks who have publically stood up for you, but those kinds of comments are never as much fun to watch as "the other" kind, unfortunately. Thank you for keeping classy throughout it all.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Thanks. I try and I don't always succeed. I've definitely been cranky this week (not just Idol) and definitely bordered on losing my temper with Gary earlier, but I a having big, abstract This Is Not Okay at the Internet this week.

[brewsternorth.livejournal.com]

Ughf.

This makes me almost sad that I only just got my internet connection back at home. Sigh.

[better-late24.livejournal.com]

Yeah, people can be much too cruel on the internet. It's very easy to hide behind anonymity and say whatever you'd like. Though, it says something kind of awful about us that when we have the opportunity say something cruel and feel relatively protected, we do it.

That said, I've been that bitch. =/ Though I'd like to think I've learned from it, regret it, and am not like that anymore.

[feyandstrange.livejournal.com]

Kind of makes me wish the whole contest could be anonymized - that is, just give the contestants numbers and not know who they "really" are, not anonymizing the commenters. But that probably wouldn't solve anything.

Brava for going onward with some dignity. I sometimes think of joining you just for the writing exercise, but on a day like this (splitting headache drugs won't touch) I would probably snap at somebody and contribute to the bad stuff.

[cozzene.livejournal.com]

that makes the most sense. the way it has been set up it assures that it becomes a pissing contest more than anything in relation to talent.

[greg-kennedy.livejournal.com]

But that probably wouldn't solve anything.

It doesn't. She Who Must Not Be Named from the community stormed off in a huff and formed her own (thebrenljidol) - net result being that the exact same thing happens, all players just share their entries with their friends and the behind-closed-doors secret alliances are made all the more vicious.

At least this is what I gather from third- or fourth-hand experience : )