you kinky dino, you sundries
Nov. 7th, 2009 03:07 pmSpecifically, the community says "Gender themes (gender confusion; sex changes; genderfucks; hermaphrodites; cross-dressing or other forms of genderbending; drag queens and transvestites; androgyny; forced feminization; butch/femme; tomboys)."
Department of newsflash:
1. I am not a kink;
2. I am not a "genderfuck," but thank you for playing, and, by the way...
3. What about characters who canonically are or do any of those things (i.e., Desire from Sandman, Pie'oh'Pah from Imajica, etc.) Also the enforcement of gender norms can very much be a kink too.
Anyway, while I totally get the point of the community, they really may want to take a look at the degree to which their verbiage is a pretty vicious, heteronormative fuck you. Also, there's a ton of other really problematic shit lurking on there as well (all virgins are kinks; apparently so is all rape recovery).
(Image created by About.com is of two cartoon dino silhouettes kissing; it makes me happy.)
(I had an excerpt up a moment ago but then took it away, because I'm feeling vulnerable and weird about the whole thing).
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Date: 2009-11-07 08:23 pm (UTC)I mean, just e.g.,nipple play? What includes "play" and what doesn't? How the hell do you police that sort of writing?
How do you decide why a character does anything without destroying the entire narrative?
Maybe I'm being picky and diverting my potential simmering rage at the way this community presents kink and I'm just trying to think how vanilla can be written down, when vanilla, like kink, is a whole slew of behaviours.
*Cheers* Go NaNo Go */Cheers*
In case that wasn't clear, that was me being all cheerleader-y. I'm not very good at that sort of thing, alas.
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Date: 2009-11-07 08:24 pm (UTC)ETA: also just posted another little excerpt.
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Date: 2009-11-07 08:33 pm (UTC)ETA: Yes, what you quoted! That's fucked up!
If vanilla sex is PiV my sex life with my Ex was one whole big kink because neither one of us had a P!
But seriously, leaving a hicky?! Are they nuts!
Okay, I'm now feeling the rage from the whole identities =/= kink thing!
ARRGH, once again.
Re:Nano Excerpt - Ha! Merlin! Not my fandom at all (I've seen nary an ep - though when I read "cheekbones" I flashed to James Marsters... how is that for association!).
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Date: 2009-11-07 08:42 pm (UTC)Voice fetishization (cracking or broken; husky, low, throaty; purring; accents; whispering close to someone's ear)
Some of these are not voluntary responses IRL! What. The. Hell!?! I have never seen such a sex-negative fic comm in my more than a decade of on-line life!
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Date: 2009-11-07 08:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-11-07 08:44 pm (UTC)Stay tuned.
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Date: 2009-11-07 09:24 pm (UTC)I blogged about it.
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Date: 2009-11-07 09:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-11-07 10:12 pm (UTC)I think no one comments on the fics there because none of them have a pulse. It must be, because I saw they didn't forbid zombie sex, necrophilia, or the word "dead". Heheheh. That's it. It's a community of zombie undead getting off on reading soporific vanilla sex! Muuuuuuuh....
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Date: 2009-11-07 10:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-11-07 10:57 pm (UTC)vore...
Snort! Dare ya! XD
You know, on further reading of this comm it doesn't seem very heternorm or cis to me, either. Where are the Mary Sues in danger? I've read a lot of cis-conforming pulp romance novels (oh Gran, you should have hidden that trunk better...) and the obsessive emphasis in those books on breasts, villainous rapists, semi-con with the curt "hero", and kidnapping, domination, and hurt/comfort sex is legendary.
I always snicker and point first and then my brain (trained by MOM!) starts going "Now now, let's be fair here..." so my thinker is thinking and what I'm seeing is a group of people deeply phobic of sex and most expressions of physical intimacy. I don't want to say asexual, because asexuals aren't necessarily averse to reading or writing about sex (at least the ones I know), but there's some definite phobia here. Puzzling.
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Date: 2009-11-07 11:21 pm (UTC)I DOUBLE DARE YA!!! :O)
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Date: 2009-11-07 10:02 pm (UTC)No joke. I lost it at "silence; too aroused to speak." Hello, welcome to my life. Apparently I'm kinkier than I thought I was.
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Date: 2009-11-07 10:04 pm (UTC)