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Prop 8 Overturned.

For today, at least, we win. May it be so every day until the battle is over.
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Date: 2010-08-04 09:12 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-08-04 09:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elainasaunt.livejournal.com
Just saw the NYT News Alert on this pop into my inbox, whooped for joy, posted it on my Facebook and then came here 'cause, you know, I'm sitting at home alone after a long day but this is a thing worth sharing with others. Still a long way to go. But this is a good step.

Date: 2010-08-04 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azn-jack-fiend.livejournal.com
Yay! It's a really good step in the right direction.

Date: 2010-08-04 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filkerdave.livejournal.com
I just got the NY Times email alert on my Crackberry.

If I may allow myself a brief moment of emotion: HALLE-FUCKING-LUJAH!

Date: 2010-08-04 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhiannonstone.livejournal.com
I am bouncing with joy. And I love your last line. I hope it's alright if I quote you.

Date: 2010-08-04 09:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Yeah, feel free.

Date: 2010-08-04 09:18 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-08-04 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tacky-tramp.livejournal.com
Just downloaded the decision. Apparently the judge was pretty merciless. Can't wait to read it.

Date: 2010-08-04 09:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tommx.livejournal.com
"Moral disapproval alone is an improper basis on which to deny rights to gay men and lesbians. The evidence shows conclusively that Proposition 8 enacts, without reason, a private moral view that same-sex couples are inferior to opposite sex couples."

This was a quote I saw from the judge.

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Date: 2010-08-04 09:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-04 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thepyromanical1.livejournal.com
ICON LOVE. &hearts

Date: 2010-08-04 09:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eac.livejournal.com
Might not be the only fight or the last of this one, but I am still happy today. (now to avoid newspaper comments sections...)

Date: 2010-08-04 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nekosensei.livejournal.com
Hip Hip Hooray!
From: [identity profile] lather2002.livejournal.com
But Democracy loses.

Regardless of my, your and/or anyone else's opinion/view on "gay" marriage it is wrong for a Judge, particularly an unelected one, to overturn a law that was passed in an open and free election by the majority of citizens. It is the same type of wrong as when elected representatives ignore the wishes of those that elected them as in the passage of the "Health Care Bill" recently. It is just plain wrong, no matter what the issue/law may happen to be. Just saying
Edited Date: 2010-08-04 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
Prop 8 represented the people voting on whether a particular class of people deserved equal rights under the law. Would you be as willing to accept such a matter if the vote had been about the rights of people or color? Or the right of anyone to enter into an interracial marriage?

A government that thinks it valid to hold a vote as whether some of its citizens are as human as some of its other citizens does not deserve the honor of representing anyone.

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Date: 2010-08-04 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] roadnotes.livejournal.com
Today is a good day. May it be the first in a series.

Date: 2010-08-05 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
A long series!

Date: 2010-08-04 10:13 pm (UTC)
ext_1880: (dark side logic)
From: [identity profile] lillian13.livejournal.com
The conclusion:
CONCLUSION
Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license. Indeed, the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California Constitution the notion that oppositesex couples are superior to same-sex couples. Because California has no interest in discriminating against gay men and lesbians, and because Proposition 8 prevents California from fulfilling its
constitutional obligation to provide marriages on an equal basis, the court concludes that Proposition 8 is unconstitutional.

...that judge is awesome with a side of awesomesauce.
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Date: 2010-08-04 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 4hour-ramona.livejournal.com
judicial gold

Date: 2010-08-04 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
Amen.From your mouth to Whomever listens.

Date: 2010-08-04 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] etmuse.livejournal.com
That judge is clearly made of the same awesome sauce as the judge that ruled recently over here that sending LBGT asylum seekers back to the countries where they'd be imprisoned/killed for being LGBT with the advice, basically, to hide in the closet, was utterly ridiculous.

Date: 2010-08-04 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] logansrogue.livejournal.com
*offers hugs in celebration*

Date: 2010-08-04 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com
I find the fact-finding particularly delicious! Sure, there will be an appeal but generally the facts are considered established at this point!

Date: 2010-08-05 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gement.livejournal.com
I love a good dry legal evisceration. My favorite bits so far (I'm on page 29) both regard the credentials and testimony of Tam:

"1man1woman.net encouraged voters to support Prop8 on grounds that homosexuals are twelve times more likely to molest children, and because Prop8 will cause states one-by-one to fall into Satan's hands."

"Tam identified 'the internet' as the source of information connecting same-sex marriage to polygamy and incest."

These are the sorts of documents on which long-term cultural and anthropological references (such as the OED and longitudinal discussions of ethics) are founded. This is the friggin' historical record, and this judge is lovingly recording just how batshit these people are.

Date: 2010-08-05 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
You might appreciate the bit on page 61 of the decision, where Walker quotes Scalia's angry and sarcastic
dissent
in Lawrence v. Texas to support the premise that there is absolutely no logical nor legal reason to prohibit gay and lesbian folk from marrying.

Here, lemme show you:

c. Lawrence v Texas, 539 US 558, 604-05 (2003) (Scalia, J,
dissenting) (“If moral disapprobation of homosexual
conduct is ‘no legitimate state interest’ for purposes of
proscribing that conduct * * * what justification could
there possibly be for denying the benefits of marriage to
homosexual couples exercising ‘the liberty protected by
the Constitution’? Surely not the encouragement of
procreation, since the sterile and the elderly are
allowed to marry.”)


I love how Scalia's snarkiness rose up and bit him right in his bigoted, stupidstitious ass.

Date: 2010-08-05 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xtricks.livejournal.com
I think this bit was sort of critical, because this case will be going to the Supreme Court. They've already confirmed there, that private morality is insufficient to base a law that denies rights in that case.

Date: 2010-08-05 03:57 am (UTC)
kaffy_r: The TARDIS says hello (Orihime yay!)
From: [personal profile] kaffy_r
Like the old Christmas hymn says - the wrong shall fail, the right prevail. I am glad.

And the ruling makes fantastic reading.
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