in point of fact

[rm]

When you say something anti-gay and I point out the bigotry of your statement, I'm not the one being hateful.

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[sunhawk.livejournal.com]

What a novel concept!!

[lilacsigil.livejournal.com]

But...but...you might be making them feel uncomfortable! And obviously their personal comfort is the highest priority in any situation!

[eumelia.livejournal.com]

Oh c'mon, obviously you're closed minded and aren't taking their perspective into account! Pfft.

[kyburg.livejournal.com]

Werd UP.

[smirnoffmule.livejournal.com]

Oh you big meanie.

[fabricdragon.livejournal.com]

not unless you scream it or throw things... no.
why?

[rm.livejournal.com]

Oh you know, people were being wrong at me on the Internets. I've very little patience for the people that think they are being conciliatory by saying "gay marriage is a hard issue to discuss because both sides are more interested in hatred then a solution."

[laughingacademy.livejournal.com]

"...both sides are more interested in hatred then a solution."

If they consider that conciliatory, I'd hate to see what they consider inflammatory.

[upstart-crow.livejournal.com]

Oh, fuck that noise.

[starstealingirl.livejournal.com]

My ex-girlfriend and I used to have a saying about this sort of thing: "How wonderful for you!" As in: "How wonderful for you that I was willing to take time out of my schedule to educate you on that really ignorant thing you said, when it's not really my job to do so, so that you can learn from me and therefore not make more really stupid mistakes later on in life!" If someone says something bigoted and you call them on it, they should thank you for the effort.

So whoever this person is: how wonderful for them!

[upstart-crow.livejournal.com]

Clearly you took the wrong "tone" with them, duh!

[upstart-crow.livejournal.com]

And clearly that icon is broken. :O

[bodlon.livejournal.com]

I wish I could say this was not news. AND YET.

[nonsecateur.livejournal.com]

(Hi- I journal hopped here more or less at random!)

Oh, they know. It's a cynical 'gotcha!'. They've noticed that pro equality folks tend to be hot on free speech and tolerance, and it's an attempt to use that against the very people promoting equal rights. Because we're not supportive of the right to discriminate/ intimidate/ persecute, they're being oppressed and we're awful, cruel hypocrites.

[rm.livejournal.com]

Hi! And ayup, that's why I'm having a Big Gay Sulk because people are being Wrong on the Internet again.

[aviv-b.livejournal.com]

I'd never heard of the Gazebo case. What a crock. Hey if you want to get married in my synagogue (or they may call it a commitment ceremony, you got me), and you're Jewish and gay and your partner is Jewish and gay then fine. If my Jewish brother wanted to marry his Catholic wife in my synagogue, no dice.

No one can tell a religious body who to marry. Period. I'm actually in favor of having anything done by the state be a civil union (so you get a civil union license rather than a marriage license). You want a marriage - then you have it done by your church, synagogue, whatever.

As for the Catholic church, I lost all respect for them when they persisted in covering up child rape. Sorry, anyone who does that has NO MORAL AUTHORITY to tell anyone anything.

And don't get me started on what the Mormons did in California with their front group.

I wonder how they'd like it if states started passing laws forbiding any who thinks that humans came to earth from another planet from getting married.

[queenfanfiction.livejournal.com]

Solidarity to you! I just got told I was going to hell by a group of old guys sermonizing on the street corner of our campus. They showered me with pocket Bibles and said they'd pray for my immortal soul.

Uh, if those people who say that homosexuals are sinners are going to be praying for my soul, I'd rather they didn't, thanks. :/

[fabricdragon.livejournal.com]

if its any consolation. ... they dont like any other Christians either.

way back when i was in the army the born again bible thumpers would drop everyone esle like a hot rock to go after my sabbatarian self.. i was a "heretic" you see..

[ladyofthelog.livejournal.com]

oh, stupid people.

[manycolored.livejournal.com]

It's true.

"Ewww I felt uncomfortable when you pointed out my error so you're a meanie poo poo head!"

Sorry, bigots, your ship is slowly sinking. It's fine to jump ship and come join the human race. Come on over - there's pie! But if not, do try to drown quietly.

[jackolantern.livejournal.com]

Every time a deer runs away instead of standing still and being eaten, a wolf is oppressed.

[thunderemerald.livejournal.com]

Word. I'm trying to get better at pointing out people's hateful statements to them -- even if they don't mean them as such. (I have you to thank for this, at least in part. This journal is often very inspiring to me.) Mostly I do it online, but I'm finally growing the guts to cross it over into face-to-face interactions too. Have you noticed any major differences in the reactions people have online versus IRL when you point out their bigotry?

[rm.livejournal.com]

I mostly see the best and worst responses online.

In person I most often see people blithely ignore the sentence I have just uttered to them or get into weird justifications based in false claims of intellectual attainment "Well, it's just that the culture is different" is uttered to me so often about some many totally disparate things from people who don't know shit, it's sort of amazing.

[eva-rosen.livejournal.com]

About gay marriage: here in Argentina, the first marriage was going to be on December 1, but the city government got its corrupted paw in between and now the whole thing is on the air. Politic stuff: the Governor was ok with it (albeit reluctantly; he said he didn't support it but wasn't going to oppose either), then another politician of his party said in a popular interview show that he was totally against it and didn't agree with this posture, and oh guess what: the very next day it was pulled off.

We do have civil union for both gay and straight people here, but this is getting tiresome. Judges have already said our Constitution doesn't have anything on it that prevents gay marriage, so it's the same old bullshit. They don't allow it because they don't want to.

[virginhuntress.livejournal.com]

INDEED.