"I" in academic and scholarly writing
May. 12th, 2010 12:45 pmThis is not a search for advice. This is a point of curiosity to me, because my education was sort of extreme and obsessive on this point, and it occurs to me that perhaps other fifth-graders were not scarred for life by writing papers that said things like "this author feels that Disney World would be an idea summer vacation destination for her family."
So, inquiring minds and all that....
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So, inquiring minds and all that....
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Date: 2010-05-12 04:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 04:58 pm (UTC)I am still extremely bitter over the prescriptiveness of my pre-university writing classes :D 'I's can be useful things.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:01 pm (UTC)I believe my thesis was written in the passive voice "this was done to the materials..." because of this concern.
I do (now) get annoyed with "my opinion is" constructions because, duh, if you're writing it of course it's your opinion (or experiences, or whatever). Of course, I've now taken a wealth of technical editing continuing education courses (I'm an engineer) and find that any phrase that doesn't convey meaning irritates me.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:45 pm (UTC)Of course, my degrees are in English, so YMMV.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:01 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-13 12:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 05:01 pm (UTC)Implicitly (post high-school), it seemed like there were two understandings:
In the humanities (my undergrad) you mostly didn't unless it was the kind of paper where you did -- though it's not like anyone drew a diagram as to which was which. There was a lot of critical theory stuff of various flavors running around, and some of them seemed to go well with an "I" approach.
For social science style papers (grad school), it was all stylized "In this paper I [or we] will show [blah] by doing [blah] and [blah]." No emotional connection, but strong emphasis on ownership of the research.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 05:02 pm (UTC)Anything other than that, I still default to what the evidence shows, third person, etc. due to strict penalties as a child.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 05:06 pm (UTC)Some would call that poor education, and say that a well refined person would know both how to write technically , and correctly.
This used to disturb me until I discovered that the majority of people I dealt with who considered me unrefined were just mucking about trying to get more people to play their game.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 05:25 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 05:29 pm (UTC)I was taught, obsessively and in a way that shamed me, never to use "I" before I got to university. Then, in university, I was mocked for all my work sounding like it was written by old white dudes from the 19th century (and of course, I thought the mockers were complete heathens who didn't know anything). Now, I'm in a position where part of my authority comes from the emotional component implied by I, and I find myself having to juggle two layers of shame to make a point that should be quite simple to make, and, in no way involves random bullshit like "it is my opinion" (I mean, obviously, I'm writing the fucking thing).
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:28 pm (UTC)It was never mentioned in my community college writing courses or at all at University, not even in the hardcore grammar, syntax, and essay-writing courses I took because I was working as a writing coach for ESL and low-skills students. It was taken as sort of a given that sometimes it's okay and sometimes it's not and at this point most of us understand the difference. When I was helping students with their essays I tried to explain the different situations in which it's okay and not, and they seemed to understand.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:29 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:30 pm (UTC)If there's some rule in American academia saying that you shouldn't use "I" in academic or scholarly writing, I'd suspect it grows out of a formalization of observed practice, and that the observed practice in turn grew out of writers' anxieties about their own writing. If you look at J.R.R. Tolkien's academic work, or the opinions of Mr. Justice Holmes, you'll see that they use "I" where it's warranted -- and you'll also see that neither one has any reason to doubt his ability to write in language that's both formal enough for the highest occasion and flexible enough for everyday use.
This is a case where both the confidence and the substantive reason to be confident are relevant, I think: this kind of formal speech only works (in the sense of conveying authority as well as information/argument) when the reader perceives it as natural and unforced, when it neither talks down to the reader nor has anything of ingratiating faux-populism to it. So it requires that the writer be comfortable with it; discomfort will show. At the same time, though, a writer doing this had better have the skill to handle the language well, and the substantive content needs to match the degree of confidence expressed in it; otherwise the authorial voice will seem not confident but arrogant, and unpleasantly so.
Done well, this kind of formal writing makes all other forms look pathetic and inadequate. But I do understand why not all academic writers attempt it: proscriptions by earlier teachers aside, it's something of a high-wire act. If you try it and fail, well, it's a long, long way to the ground.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:37 pm (UTC)Okay, that sentence above proves I've been staring at this shit waaaaaaaaaaaay too long.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:35 pm (UTC)Personally, I think that there is a trend in the humanities towards scholarly work becoming more readable and accessible, and as that happens, it will become more common. In this vein, I have tried to do it and discovered that it makes me extremely uncomfortable. I'm hoping to work on that during my PhD.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:35 pm (UTC)At least, that's what this author thinks. *g*
I'm not alone, though, not even among academics. Of course, others will disagree vehemently. Personally, I will hold my nose and use the passive voice if, after reading the journal or conference abstracts, that seems to be non-negotiable. Most of the time.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:59 pm (UTC)(An observer of this author's high school career woulld have had plenty of material for a paper on the effects of uncontrolled ADHD in the person of the author's best friend at the time.)
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:35 pm (UTC)Then again, I'm sure that people in other disciplines would argue that us interdisciplinary humanities types are just a bunch of damn hippies who can't tell an academic paper apart from a blog entry.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:43 pm (UTC)I'm writing a paper on Slash fiction, Porn and Torchwood.
I can't avoid being completely and utterly and overtly subjective!
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:49 pm (UTC)In er... college, lit. essays didn't traumatize me over the issue. I don't think I used the "I", or "this author". I used more something along these lines "This part of the text (insert example here in the appropriate format) seems to indicate that ... ".
I can't say much about university as I studied fundamental sciences and the use of "I" is strictly forbidden with the exception of a few very specific instances.
Er... I should add that most of my schooling is in French so this might not be relevant at all.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:52 pm (UTC)As other commenters have mentioned, the restriction goes by discipline. The same disciplines that restrict the first person also prefer the passive voice. The agent of an action may be less important than the action that was taken. As I've explained the issue in a handout for faculty:
Students who have been warned against the passive verb and encouraged to use first person in their English courses may founder in writing for their other courses because academic discourse in many of the sciences relies on these constructions to avoid overusing such constructions as “I applied this variable to the experiment”. So why do English professors discourage the passive, but other professors encourage it? The passive voice de-emphasizes the performer of the action. In narratives that students may write for their English classes, the performer of an action is perhaps the most significant element in the students’ texts. But for students writing a lab report, the performer of the action of the experiment is perhaps the least significant element, since the experiment is expected to proceed regardless of who performs it. The focus there is on the action and its object, not the researcher who performs it.
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Date: 2010-05-12 05:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 05:58 pm (UTC)In college, I was taught that it depends on the discipline and such. And then I took a Feminist Theory class...
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Date: 2010-05-12 06:01 pm (UTC)Sadly, due to my scrambled memory chemicals, the exact substance has faded.
I do remember that my professors and teachers across the board were cautiously in favour of it when deliberately selected as part of the approach to the material at hand and also had some hopes that it might assist in making accessible to non-academics academically-sourced material that would be important to add to the knowledge base of the general population.
In short, during the madcap days of plenty, I encountered a relatively substantial number of academics who were tired of academic material being produced solely for consumption by the echo chamber and saw things like first-person references in academic text as part of a trend toward making academic text accessible outside the tower.
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Date: 2010-05-13 02:28 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-05-12 06:03 pm (UTC)The use of "I" was never a major concern in my writing training at any level. In grad school, we were trained (implicitly, and occasionally explicitly) to learn from the style used by the books and articles we read. As a result, my use of "I" is pretty consonant with others' in media and cultural studies: relatively sparing, and generally used to make a meta-point or give directions (e.g., a line from the intro to my first book, Rerun Nation (http://books.google.com/books?id=wBeeHtDc9KYC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_slider_thumb#v=onepage&q&f=false) (shameless plug alert): "I believe that the industry is neither merely a source nor merely a blueprint, but is rather a complex site of production, in the broadest sense of the word." (xii))