[personal profile] rm
http://johncwright.livejournal.com/269139.html

You know what to do. :)

(Also, why do I share? John C Wright is a SF/F pro, and considering most of the consumers of SF/F I know are LGBTQ or allies, I thought you might want to know whose books not to buy).

ETA: http://rm.livejournal.com/1686347.html?thread=14970699

Yeah, you can shut down the comments, but we can still tell the world you're a bigot who can't construct an argument. One advocates for not paying for you work, the other advocates for not reading it at all.

Thanks for playing. Also, I heard scads of people emailed Tor.
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Date: 2009-08-13 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manycolored.livejournal.com
Can't wait to watch!

This morning, I edited the Wikipedia spam that called him a batshit homophobe, because that would have gotten flat-out erased. I'm hoping that my more encylopediesque way of saying the same thing will be allowed to persist.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
Yeah, I had a quick squint at that article, and I think the current comment is more NPOV.

Dear oh dear. Just looking at the paragraph above the line as emended by yourself (the one talking about how he converted from atheism to Catholicism, and the comments he made) made me go a bit "danger Will Robinson!"
Edited Date: 2009-08-13 03:02 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2009-08-13 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karnythia.livejournal.com
He and his wife are just...my brain hurts thinking about them adopting a 14 year old girl from China.

Date: 2009-08-13 06:20 pm (UTC)
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I ... can't imagine growing up with parents who don't believe your culture matters.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stephl.livejournal.com
I thought you might want to know whose books not to buy

In an odd way, I appreciate bigots who are so completely open about their hatred, because it makes it so much easier for me to know whose books not to buy.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com
Me too!

It's convenient.

GOD. THIS IS SUCH FAIL.



Also, my icon likes your icon and agrees.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
...oh good grief. I'd heard about that other fail, I didn't know there was a connection.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] manycolored.livejournal.com
Forgive me, I had to do it. I didn't troll. I edited the comment to remove as much vitriol and condescension as I could find. But I couldn't just let him spew his spit without making my opposition known. :\

Date: 2009-08-13 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virginia-fell.livejournal.com
Woooow. Jackass. Thanks for the alert on this guy.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] cruentum.livejournal.com
Fucking hell. I read the thing and thought, "surely no-one can agree to such bullshit", but wtf people are.

Date: 2009-08-13 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demotu.livejournal.com
The first page is the worst. I think that was mostly a self-selected flist, but once it got out beyond that - yeah, there isn't a positive comment past those terrifying ones on the first page.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eumelia.livejournal.com
Wow, I commented much more gently than I wanted. But it felt so good.

Thanks for the heads up.

Sheesh... people... I just... bah!

Date: 2009-08-13 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallo-de-pelea.livejournal.com
I don't quite know why it feels incongruous, or why it still surprises me after all these years, but I'm always a little shocked when I encounter a full-on, genuine bigot in a creative profession.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I have that too. My parents owned an art gallery when I was a baby and are both exhibiting artists (among other things) so the creative professions have always been my world and this shit shocks me. Even my parents' own homophobia never looked like this.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:17 pm (UTC)
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So is there a list out there of SF writers who are not, as the contempoary jargon has it, walking around pantsless?

Date: 2009-08-13 03:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com
Neil Gaiman.
...
...
...
... probably some other people too.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lachupacabra.livejournal.com
oh holy fuck
AND hes married to the one from yesterday?
i dont know if i can read anymore of that shit.
im really getting to the point where im just done with ppl.
*cries*

Date: 2009-08-13 03:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lawsontl.livejournal.com
What interests me is that I tried to follow the link, and it's blocked by our corporate proxy. That's the first LJ site I've encountered that is.

An hour ago, I clicked on fanfic that was one step shy of porn, got through no problem. Then again, from your comments, sounds like this is far more offensive. No wonder the corp proxy blocked it.

But that's the joy of freedom of speech. It reminds us that there are still people with their heads so far up their rears that they can see their amygdala.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
Not clicking because between all this fail and the health care insanity my blood pressure can't handle it. But I can guess.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
I've been personally unable to post a comment in response because to be at my Snapely best, I'd have to read each and every word of his diatribe and be witty and vicious in response, but my eyes keep sliding off the horror.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com
Thank you for the heads up.

Man, this guy makes Orson Scott Card sounds like Mr. Rogers.

“Why are you willing to tolerate sexual perversion but not racism?” ...what? What? WHAT?!?

Date: 2009-08-14 09:11 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] azurelunatic
I was saying that just this evening. Well, "Wow, I never imagined I would find a pro writer who made OSC look classy." Also debated advising Mr. Card that you know, his convictions make it certain that I will never read another one of his books, but I would still remain friends with someone who expressed admiration for him.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cozzene.livejournal.com
I think perhaps his account is a bot account. Surely no human would write such things or, perhaps, he's one of the robot/human offspring from BSG.

Date: 2009-08-13 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
Sadly, no. Actual science fiction writer(who fancies himself a libertarian, no less.)
I got linked to him somehow during the lead up to the Heinlein centenary(whom he 'praised' as a better writer than he, save for his evil wrongness.)
I realised that he was someone I'd read, then realised that I'd not be reading him further.

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Date: 2009-08-13 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
I like the part where in the first comment, someone asks "er, um, do you really mean it like that?" and he clarifies, very openly, that yes, yes he does.

Okay, then. Message received loud and clear. I think I saw a couple of your books once. I know exactly what not to do with them now.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:45 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mmerriam.livejournal.com
Words fail, and I make my living with words. I won't be buying any of this individual's books.

Date: 2009-08-13 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sageautumn.livejournal.com
I'm one of those (bad) people that don't pay attention atallwhatsoever to the author of a book when I pick it up. I hardly can ever remember the author of series I adore.

This, however, bears remembering. Cause... well... DAMN.

Date: 2009-08-13 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rani23.livejournal.com
Sigh.
I have no words.

Okay, I have some: that guy is an idiot.
I

Date: 2009-08-13 04:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jinian.livejournal.com
No one is missing much by boycotting this person, as his books are pretty dire. I do have to say I'm surprised as hell that he claims to be down on BDSM (and Gor in particular), since one of the things that made me fling the last one I read was the female POV character's insistence on interpreting her submission kink as universal to women.

Date: 2009-08-13 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stardragonca.livejournal.com
Consistency and conservatism rarely live in the same town.

Date: 2009-08-13 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rednwhiterose.livejournal.com
I read through that and didn't understand it. Like I read the words, I recognized the words but the words didn't make sense. And then I realized he writes like my ex-bf talks. All flowery bs but no substance whatsoever and the more he (re: my ex) would try to explain what his point the more my head hurt...like it does now.

The stupid hurts. It hurts a lot.

Date: 2009-08-13 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaddeusfavour.livejournal.com
I alluded to that in my comment! He used so many words, when only a few would do. :P

AND, lj let me comment on his post of ultimate fail for the first time in a week or more! It's a sign!

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Date: 2009-08-13 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalichan.livejournal.com
I wish I hadn't read that. I love all the names agreeing with him that I vaguely know from one fandom or another. Love it.

Date: 2009-08-13 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rm.livejournal.com
ORLY? Do any of them write slash? If so let me know so I can call their shit out.

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Date: 2009-08-13 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cozzene.livejournal.com
I went and re-read that again. It depresses me to know that people choose to be oblivious to the world that exists outside of their own little minds. It's as if he's trapped in some 1940 john wayne movie--playing the troll with a poor excuse with a Texas accent.

Date: 2009-08-13 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaddeusfavour.livejournal.com
Thanks for the heads up. I shared in spreading the word. :)

Date: 2009-08-13 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blergeatkitty.livejournal.com
I've never heard of this guy (seriously, is he real-famous or just LJ-famous?), but if his fiction is a fraction as sloppy, misguided, and thick-headed as his LiveJournal, I know I'm not missing much.

I also know I'm not going to change the guy's mind or have any effect on him so I'm not really bothering. (Although I did think it was interesting that he hasn't bothered responding to anybody who is responsibly and fact-basedly debunking him.)

Date: 2009-08-13 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heron61.livejournal.com
I've never heard of this guy (seriously, is he real-famous or just LJ-famous?), but if his fiction is a fraction as sloppy, misguided, and thick-headed as his LiveJournal, I know I'm not missing much.

Oh, it most definitely is. I tried to read one of his novels before I found out he was a crank, and it was far too dull to read.
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